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Tomas Geerts's avatar

I agree they’re fairly valued at this moment i.e. buying at these valuations will probably make it difficult for outperformance. It still remains my second largest holding at around 8.5% though - intention to keep it forever and just buy if hell breaks loose.

For what it’s worth I think there also haven’t been any insider purchases for a while.

I’m not sure what to think about the TSR vs NAV though; I would always argue, and it is for many holding companies, that NAV is the only thing under the control of management, rather than TSR, and therefore they should be rewarded based upon sustainable NAV growth. As with normal companies, the stock should follow the NAV/EPS in the long run. Exor NAV has been great (bit lagging past years for sure) but their TSR was nowhere near this afaik - also due to discount widening.

If the market tomorrow decides Investor AB is a great company because they have a large stake in ABB (AI) or whatever, and pumps up the valuation, TSR will be good but how much of this added value really came from fundamental improvement rather than multiple expansion? In this case, management will be rewarded due to the good TSR, even if ABB may not live up to the hype and ultimately may present disappointing results and therefore cash flows?

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Thanks Ole, always a pleasure

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